I received a request from a French botanical garden via my web site (http://www.temarareo.org) for help in getting seeds of toatoa and Phyllocladus alpinus. I had thought of Oratia Native Plants as the most likely people to be able to help, but discovered that they closed down a couple of years ago. If you know of a possible alternative source please let me know, and I'll contact them and pass the information on. Many thanks.